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Shouldn't it be "this wiki" rather than "this wikipedia" as strictly speaking wikipedia refers to an encyclopedia based upon the wiki system and not the wiki system itself. Even Memory Alpha refer to themselves as a wiki, rather than a "wikipedia", and Memory Alpha use the following description of who/what they are Memory Alpha is a wiki, meaning that any fan may edit any article by clicking on the edit this page link that appears in every wiki article that is not designated as a protected page. This makes it very easy for any fan to share their knowledge and insight of the Star Trek universe and add to the collected information available. Not trying to be overly pedantic, but that's the way I see it, but I'm not going to edit it to wiki unless there's some kind of agreement. Thanks

Could you please reference exactly what you're referring to? --Cdickinson 11:54, 22 May 2006 (EDT)

"WELCOME TO THE ST:ACTD WIKIPEDIA!" "What this Wikipedia is" As well as several others, but I suppose wikipedia is valid in this context with it being an ACTD encyclopedia, on the other hand the wikipedia people probably have the rights to the name --Andreas

Gotcha. You are right, and I'll take care of that. --Cdickinson 14:31, 22 May 2006 (EDT)

Cool, sorry for the delay. I've been having some trouble with my connection lately. --Andreas 21:15 03 June 2006 (BST)

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Templates

We need a project page for templates, question is where to have this sort of discussions? --Locutus 13:46, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

The community portal page informed you that discussions were moved to the Ship Template talk page.

  • I'm not talking about ship templates only, I'm talking about general templates. --Locutus 13:58, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

General Questions?

  • I've been wondering if there is a community discussion area for general questions or a place where people can bounce ideas off one another ... like my question about the auxillary craft page, how to unbold it. Is there a place I could have gone to and asked "How would I unbold this?"? I realize this is probably the purpose of the community portal but it seems to be more 'statement-oriented' (i.e. X is done) than 'question-oriented'. --Jafo 11:34, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
    • If you have questions regarding the Wiki syntax then take a look at the Wiki policies and guidelines. If this doesn't help you can try contacting Chris or me directly or just leave your question in the community portal discussion section (this page), most of the active users in the wiki take the time to browse it from time to time and all of them know what they're doing. --Locutus 15:40, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
    • The Help:Editing page has been on my to-do list, which has unfortunately gotten put off for far too long. I don't know if that would be a suitable location to put general questions, though... --CDickinson 12:40, 26 October 2006 (EDT)
      • As a follow up, Wikipedia has a "help desk" sort of thing... if I ever get around to making up the help pages to begin with, that'll probably pop up. But right now, with such a small number of people actively participating, you could pretty much go to another user like Eldad suggested. --CDickinson 12:43, 26 October 2006 (EDT)

Most Requested Topics

  • I've been wondering if there is a way to find which topics have the most broken links out there. For instance, if there are 30 broken links for [[Trevor McGreevy]] out there is there a way to find out? I ask because I would like to work the topics that are most called for first. --Jafo 11:34, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
    • I (finally) found the Special:BrokenRedirects page but it's not showing any data so this is still an open question. --Jafo 14:19, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
      • Typically in Wikis if you go to Wanted Pages you should get a list and the number of links that direct there. Not sure if it works on this Wiki version however. - C.J. Tala 15:24, 25 October 2006 (EDT)
        • As Mister Tala pointed out, the Wanted Pages will display what you're looking for. Personally, looking at that list... if you were feeling adventurous, go for the destroyed/inactive vessels (Orion, Artemis, Titan, Callisto, Shrike, Comanche), since they're at the top. The unlaunched Sixth Fleet vessels, I don't know what we can do about those. A lot of the rest of the wanted articles are either characters or locations, it looks like. --CDickinson 12:40, 26 October 2006 (EDT)
  • I'm very pleased to announce that we are down to only 604 wanted pages! Sounds like a lot still? Well, that's down from nearly 1,000 pages when I started this thread back at the end of October. But, even better, is the fact that of those 604 ... probably more than 590 are characters. There are virtually ZERO non-character pages in the wanted queue with a few notable exceptions like this and this that really shouldn't ever become linked. WooHoo! Now to tackle those character pages... --Jafo 18:51, 22 January 2007 (EST)
    • Just as long as those character pages follow the guidelines completely, and if you're going to tackle it then feel free to leave me a message and we'll share the load. --Locutus 19:15, 22 January 2007 (EST)
      • Or better yet, unlink them all. In fact I'm going to bring it to a vote on the community portal. --Locutus 19:30, 22 January 2007 (EST)

Editing Templates

  • This is NOT about editing the character/ship/fleet/species/planet/etc templates. What I'm wondering is how I can go about editing templates like {{USS Katana}} or {{ACTD_NinthFleetShips}}. I noticed that Katana one has a wrongly formatted broken link so I'd like to correct it before the page gets created. If someone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. --Jafo 13:55, 4 November 2006 (EST)
    • [[Template:USS Katana]], Template:ACTD NinthFleetShips. --Locutus 14:56, 4 November 2006 (EST)
      • Hmm ... thought I had tried that but I probably put a space between the : and USS Katana. Oh well, thanks! --Jafo 13:05, 6 November 2006 (EST)

Piped Link in Template

Q: In the character template how can I take "| currentposition = Transporter Chief" and have it link to the Transporter Technician (enlisted rating) page without changing the text of the link? Normally I can do this with a piped link (ex: [[Transporter Technician (enlisted rating)|Transporter Chief]] but since this is in a template it seems to be causing me some problems. Thanks! --Jafo 11:19, 15 November 2006 (EST)

  • I'm assuming you're talking about NPC characters, NPC characters have their own sidebar. In that template the positions doesn't automatically convert to a link, so you link the position anyway you want, like your example. --Locutus 17:09, 15 November 2006 (EST)
    • I am talking about NPC's - specifically this page. I guess it's just a case of the wrong sidebar being used. I'll fix that tomorrow. But I'm also wondering, in general, how to kill the linking in a sidebar. For instance, this page has a broken link in the 'Location' field. Initially the link was [[Starbase 595 & Alternate Universe]] and I was able to fix that. But I'd like to either get rid of those ending [['s or kill the link after Starbase 595. Similar issue. Any thoughts? --Jafo 23:50, 15 November 2006 (EST)
    • Another page that would benefit from being able to kill a link within the sidebar (if it's even possible). Note the 'location'. That broken link should never become an actual page. --Jafo 00:08, 16 November 2006 (EST)
      • It's possible, but that will further complicate the template. There is a workaround but it requires a modification to be installed to the wiki. My suggestion? Linkify those links, in your Scimitar example I would create a redirect that will point to Starbase 621. As a temporary solution anyway. If you have a any pull with anyone that has access to the wiki installation then let me know and perhaps we can work something out. --Locutus 05:54, 16 November 2006 (EST)

ST ACTD Wiki Handbook

  • Recently I've become aware of various Wiki policies through errors that I've made. While these policies are out there, mostly on user talk pages, there is no clear location where one can educate themselves on the policies - no clear page 1, 2, 3, etc. As a former Personnel Manager I'm aware that rules and guidelines need to be open to interpretation. But I'd like to suggest that when such a situation arises the administrators of the Wiki keep these decisions in a central location. I know, as a Wiki contributor, I don't follow every talk page conversation that goes on and I dare say neither do the other contributors - nor, do I think, that anyone expects us to. Having a central repository - like the Handbook is a central repository of these policies for the game - would give those of us who want to do things within the 'rules' a place to learn about new policies and guidelines as they are developed. --Jafo 12:19, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
    • Jafo, the link to Category:Wiki policies and guidelines is on the Main Page; it's not like they're hidden or obscured. I've also asked SEVERAL times on this community portal for input on them, and no one has spoken up. As for keeping all "decisions" in a central location, I don't think that is appropriate. Most cleanup issues are made known to the wiki editor themselves on their talk page, which causes the wiki software to alert the user that they have a message. I can't say I would recommend a central "offenders" page, if that's what you're suggesting. That makes things much less personal, and more likely that someone is going to be upset about the way a situation was handled. I can't blame you for not keeping up with other people's talk pages; it would be like opening every piece of mail that comes to your neighborhood, even if it's not addressed to you. --CDickinson 13:11, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
      • Yeah, I reviewed that yesterday - it's not quite what I'm talking about. I think my idea is two-fold. One hand I'd like to see a "Top Ten Common Errors" page, similar to the Intel Report Directions (for those who have seen there). A brief document saying these are the things we've been seeing a lot of. Try to avoid them. And second, something similar to Eldad's user page where you can literally 'page-through' his information. Maybe taking the Wiki policy pages and putting them in a book form here on the site. There's nothing wrong with the information that's out there. I just think improvement in the presentation will increase use. --Jafo 10:14, 4 November 2007 (EST)
        • If you have any other suggestions or if you're interested in assisting us in this little project please contact either me or Stefan. Either way, we're starting to work on this this week. --Locutus 13:01, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Species Categories

  • After going through a bunch of the dead-end pages I noticed that a good number of our species pages deal with 'extinct species'. These are currently categorized as Non-Playable Species - but I got to think that we might want to come up with a fourth species category and give them their own "Extinct Species" category. Some examples would be Iconian and Doosodarian. Thoughts? --Jafo 15:07, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Modifying Image Sizes?

  • I recently adding an image to Juner Shylt. It's very hard to find images of people in 'hover chairs' so I'm fairly constrained by what's available out there. The source image is significantly smaller than our 'default' size. I'm wondering if there is code that can be added to adjust the size of the image. I know it can be done when not using a template. Just not sure about when you are using a template. --Jafo 00:21, 31 July 2009 (EDT)
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